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This week Tim and Lj are encouraging you to head over to BTS Creative Academy and listen to our episode with Behind the Scenes founder Dan! 

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go live oh it looks like it's working looks

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like we're live looks like we're live we're live on the on the internet the

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worldwide so uh thank you both for joining me on the BTS creative Academy

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podcast um this is episode uh 154 wow wow and we proud of episode 57

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on our on our podcast but 154 is incredible well you'll get there you'll

0:47

get there and this is what it's all about and maybe you know if you like what we talk about in this episode this

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could be your episode as well so 55 for you guys

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yeah um so today we have you guys are the um musical I got I'll get my mouth

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around this yeah musical lyrical lingo podcast that's it

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yeah a lot of times it gets easier the more you say it yeah you got to get your tongue around it um I did a little clip

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while I was walking this morning to like say guys we're going live and I I had to do it three or four times

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to it's fine we edit our podcast as I'm sure most of our listeners or yourself

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know so um we make mistakes all the time we just make it up sometimes to be honest the name it could be a different

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name each week but sure well that's all I'm doing with this every time I'm doing this I'm just making it up as I go along

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just just seeing see and what come so um I've been listening to your podcast since I discovered you guys on H Tik Tok

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yeah um I've seen your Clips on there and I started listening in and uh because I love musical theater I love

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theater and I love to hear what you guys have got to say about it but one of the things I really loved about your podcast

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was hearing and listening into the friendship that you guys have a thank you yeah that's really special and

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actually something that we we love as well very we're very fortunate and like

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we we have been friends from a really young age like five six years old and

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then you know when we reached adulthood and we ended up you know going into what

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Ventures we went into jobwise we didn't see a huge amount of each other until Lauren had the idea for this podcast and

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I like I see too much of her to be quite honest with you yeah it's lovely like

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the podcast has like brought us back around to being very much in each other's lives a lot again which is

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really nice I think the thing about that whenever we first met we probably would have spent about six out of the seven

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days together um with being at school and Stage school and maybe doing shows like during the week so we were pretty

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much in each other's pockets and then as Timothy said just ad Hood just changed and we still seen each other you know

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maybe at shows and and whatever but um and birday parties you know that usual adult adult times you see your friends

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and then this has just been really nice where we're like oh I just slaughtered back into those like 15y old sales where

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we still bickered as if we were like in the classroom which is quite because I bumped into our Drama teacher recently

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and um she said oh I'm listen to your podcast and it just makes me think that we're back in drama class because you

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are just as annoying each other as just were back then it works yeah that's wonderful that sounds so nice that

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you've managed to reconnect through doing this this creative thing having a chat about the stuff that you love yeah

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and it's brought you both back together that's that's just lovely and if if

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nothing else comes ever of the podcast that in itself is beautiful isn't it

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yeah yeah there's a bit of selfish selfishness to her podcast and it's almost like rehab for us it's like it's

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like or in our busy week where we just like sit and have a bit of a chat have a bit of crack we're from Northern Ireland

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so crack is like our you know fun just oh I need to explain that

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one explain that to the southern englishes from where yeah we just have a bit of fun and

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talk about what we love which is is musical theater and has been such a huge part of our our life and our childhood

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and yeah growing up really so it's it's great I mean we've had fun so far so

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long may I continue yeah and I think that's the important part is especially as a creative person which you are as

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well Martin it's like it's hard whenever you get drawn into like real life or um

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you know maybe the creative side of you isn't as predominant as it would be used to be so this has allowed us to take

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time and find like a hobby again um because like we're in our mid-30s aate

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30s um and sometimes you just kind of struggle with trying to find that identity because you've tried to be so

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many different people throughout your life so yeah this is fun I I I completely resonate with that as well

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being I'm 40 this year and yeah and I've had to do jobs that that aren't creative

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in in my time and when you can find a way back to that creativeness you really

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start to feel like you're your you're your true self yeah within that don't

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you and it's amazing isn't it by having conversations how this I find this a creative

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thing yeah it's it's um yeah you have to use your imagination and you have to you

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have to play with it like you do with with the other creative things that you do um but where I wanted to to start

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with this is I wanted to let people know what your podcast is about because it's got It's got this lovely name it's got

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these two friends but in a nutshell for anyone that's that's discovering you for

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the first time what is the musical lyrical lingo podcast great LJ because

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this was LJ's idea so it's about what musicals have taught us so it started

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from we were heavily involved in um Joseph whenever we were younger and I remember hearing that word fratricide

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for the first time in one of uh the songs and I was like what does that mean and it taught me something so then I

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thought actually musicals do that all the time there you come across new words new phrases it references maybe

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something from history so I was like there's actually a podcast in this so it's just about learning and what musicals have taught us along the way so

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whether it taught us something whenever we were age four age 14 or n like in our

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30s just discovering something for the first time and it's quite interesting when we we would H normally we would

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choose a musical for each uh episode and it's quite interesting the the learnings

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how different they are depending on when we were first introduced to that show so if it was a show like Joseph we our

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stage go would have been used H for the UK tour Productions each year when they would have come to Belfast so the things

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that we learned from Joseph are are probably quite immature and and young compared to there's musicals that we are

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researching for podcast now that we're still learning we're going oh I didn't realize you know when you listen to the

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the soundtrack again you go oh what does that mean and then then when you actually do a bit of research you're

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going gez we're still learning from musical theater and what you know the

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content of the lyrics is so yeah it's interesting we're we're lifelong

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Learners isn't that what they say yes yeah and and and I find that really interesting as well how this this stage

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in our life we seem to be well I seem to be and I'm meeting lots of other people like yourselves that are very open to

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learning and even more so than when we were younger yeah yeah I was to it

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naturally rather than being forced you know you're not sitting in a in a school environment or a classroom somebody

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telling you that you need to know this and learn this chosen subject as well

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that's it yeah it's something you want you want to know more about or you enjoy spending the time you know looking into

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and studying and researching so what if if you didn't

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continue to learn right exactly yeah I find this all so so fascinating this

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place of discovery that that we can be in with all of this so what's been your

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um out of your podcast you've done 54 55 episodes now when did you start to

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because I know for me there was like a moment where I was like yeah this is what I'm doing now this is this is like

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this is my thing now I remember just like I didn't actually know it at at

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that exact moment but when I reflected I was like that was it I'm now a podcast Host this is now what I do did you have

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that moment I I think I'm still not struggling is the wrong word to use I'm

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still working my head around the fact that this is this is something that we now do

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CU I mean LJ was dead ke on it um and she had the idea and she came to me and

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I went oh yeah sure what do you want for me and um I was like if if all you need

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for me is to come and sit down and talk nonsense about musicals for an hour I

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I'm in completely um I suppose for me it was at the end of of our first season

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that we went oh my goodness we actually got through that and you know no episode

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that we did was it difficult to talk about things or it just it just ran naturally um we didn't

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plan anything you know we just arrived and we hit the record button we don't edit our episodes and we just let it fly

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and like some of the we and of the we go on are

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ridiculous having a debate about the beard yeah exactly it

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NE it doesn't NE daff stories where you're like oh my

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goodness I've really embarrassed myself but it just as fun and I think it was at the end of season one for me that I went

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oh actually we can still keep doing this like there are people listening there are people enjoying in it you know the

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feedback we're getting is really great and selfishly for us or for me anyway I absolutely love it so you know I love

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spending time with LJ and just having a bit of fun so probably at the end of season one for me and sit down with your

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best friend that's lovely I I think that's it too and now what I'm finding

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is I'm mayie bumping into somebody that I haven't seen for a while and they go oh here I've listened to a couple of your episodes she two AG great together

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and I'm like why are you listening to my podcast you don't like musicals or uh

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but is somebody in work um saying that their girlfriend was listening to it because I was like I have a podcast I'm like actually are you musical L Eno I

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was like oh my gosh yes so um yeah no I think it's I really

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enjoy all the creative side so I also run a couple of businesses and I enjoy canva and like going on to like social

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media and and making everything so because I'm maybe not as involved in more like a stage mom knowing um I'm not

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as involved in the musical theater side performance as I would have been whenever I was younger I'm still being

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creative um through social media channels through podcast and I'm really enjoying that side so yeah Lauren could

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always talk to be honest like even from you know the age of five or six like she

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could always just like talk and you know never makes sense like you know hold the

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conversation and like lead the way so I knew coming into this with her it was never going to be an issue because even

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if I sat going M she would she would just be able long yeah I think there's

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two types of people that that come into this podcasting the ones that that can talk and have that freedom of expression

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within you know not not much there's not much like there's not a there's not a break switch between the brain and the

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voice just and then there's then the others that can listen and absorb and uh maybe

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drive the conversation in a certain direction and uh yeah I feel like that's something that's always been me someone

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that can can listen rather than rather than do the talking which puts me in the good position to be here to to share

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what you guys have got to say well I think that really comes across in your podcast because I feel like whenever you

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are interviewing your guests there's that intensity that you're listening and

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you're wanting them to talk and tell their story and I feel that that's where you get that realness from your podcast

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which I really enjoy watching and listening to so your skill is it's

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wonderful interest when did you go oh actually this I'm not a podcaster like

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when when did that realization so I was I started in the

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very beginning in the first I think the first 14 episodes are friends people

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that I'm close to people that I know um and the 15th episode I think it was I'm

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probably wrong now um but the 15th episode with someone that I'm an acquaintance with someone that I know

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but is not a friend i' I'd been to his acting workshops um I'd been to he he's a he's

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an acting teacher an acting coach and I've been to his his sessions a few times and I invited him along and I

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didn't know him on a personal level and I wasn't sure if I could connect to

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someone that I didn't know like that and I did we connected really well we had a really insight full and an amazing

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conversation and just part way through this I was like this is the thing that I'm doing now this it's just like a a

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light bulb moment and and an Awakening to yeah I'm really enjoying it as

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well and it was just um and I and it was something that I was NE I was never

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confident talking to new people prior as well even though I was an actor and you

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know everyone thinks actors have to be extroverts which I'm not not an extrovert I promise and I haven't got

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lots of confidence I promise but everyone thought I did and yeah new people I shied away from new people or

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people that weren't in my immediate circle I wouldn't have much to to to say or or or connect with um we

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kind of did the same thing didn't we like our first couple of guests like we

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would we try every so often to pop in you know a episode where we we

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have a guest on but we started with those closest to us and I think then we had a local comedian that um had kind of

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reached out and we had reached out to them and he was like the first guest that you know there wasn't that that

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safety blanket or that comfort blanket there and we it was like once we got through that we went oh actually we we

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we can approach other people now that we don't necessarily know in the hope that

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they'll you know come on and share their story and their what they've learned from musico so yeah that's exactly it's

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that moment that I stepped out of my comfort zone the moment that I stepped out because I do I run a community

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theater near to where I live um and I recalled most of them from the theater

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and so I'm in my theater I'm with my friends and that's quite comfortable and

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that got me kind of going and eased me into it but yeah the moment that I

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stepped out out of that is where it it opened up and something new happened yeah yeah so it's

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stepping out of your comfort zone isn't it I think it's where the where the moment of achievement or the moment of

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the new Direction comes yeah I just came into this Venture not really knowing

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what we were doing or how you do how do you be a podcaster like we just

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literally sat down and record it and even like you know like the technology that we used at the beginning compared

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to what we're using now it's like a we were just swinging it like for we were you know like just we'll see how this

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goes I think like I thought oh we'll do this and like our friends will listen

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you know our listeners will be the people who know us the others that we grew up with in our you know our local

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stage School you I would be involved in amateur Dramatics as a choreographer and

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I thought maybe some of those people who are involved in that kind of thing they'll listen but it was when we

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started to see okay there are people listening in this country and that country I'm like that's that was weird

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for me I was like how did they hear about our podcast and then you know our

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listener you know figures started to grow and grow so I went oh actually

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we're we're proberly doing this now but I just thought it would be our friends that listened you know for a long yeah

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it's strange for me I didn't when I started doing this and I came up with this idea of of giving it a

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go I did yeah me the technology wasn't there either I just recorded it on my mobile phone in the first episode and in

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fact the first episode the microphones didn't work um so it just purely on my mobile phone um and then I was still

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making like loads of technical glitches in the beginning as well and and yeah and I I didn't consider that I didn't

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even think about people would be interested to listen yeah but but but I

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was interested to listen so then it's of course people are going to be interested in this there are going to be people out

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there that I'm interested in creative things hence why I want to talk to creative people and of course there are

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going to be others that are interested in that as well same with you there's tons of people out there that are interested in musical theater and tons

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of people that are interested in friendships as well that's something that I really like

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about your podcast is the friendship you don't you don't hear that on a lot of

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podcasts you hear a lot the advice and the the the you know quite a few of them

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are quite good at being authentic but the Friendship is quite rare to to get that so that's a really nice thing that

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you got you guys have got going there oh going back to the beginning of your friendship then so you say you met when

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you were five yeah yeah what what happened how

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how how did that look good old Bugsy Malone yeah it was in theater yeah it

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wasn't yeah so um Lauren always likes to make it very clear that she was here first so

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that we have a local H stage girl in Banger Northern Ireland where we're from called McMaster stage SCH and Lauren was

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already already a m MC she was already a member and then I arrived in um my dad

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had been done a lot of musical Direction himself um so I kind of grew up with

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that so it was probably a natural progression that they would shove me into Stage go you know on a Saturday 9

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to5 get rid of Tim um and that's where I first met her and her lovely um pink um

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bugy Malone outfit with her we button hat yeah dancing a dream pushing all the other girls out of the way because

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Lauren always liked to be at the front that is terrible it's true all I remember Timothy slapping his

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leg like pushing his way to the front gonna say what did you LJ what did you make of Tim when you first met him well

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there wasn't very many Boys in stage school and it wasn't certainly wasn't as big as it is no and so you kind of knew

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everybody and I remember him being he wasn't there for Wizard of O so I

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remember it being like oh this is new and it also felt like there was a lot of new people joined um for that year so it

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was kind of like getting through all the new people oh that's him oh he's that person's son all okay and he's got like

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five parts and I've only got two is that cuz he's a boy you know just all those we little things but I just thought from

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then literally our friendship just grew yeah you know and it was just we were the same age um we obviously were at

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stage go all day and um it was somewhere where okay your parents probably sent

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you but you choose chose to be there um got yeah like we loved her like

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absolutely you know 5 o' came and I was like oh we have to go home no like can we not just keep tap dancing and singing

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and having fun but I always thought Timothy was like a real show person and

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at the end we had like somebody come on and do like the ballot um and he was really funny well Timothy was like over

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the top laughing him I was like that boy laughs at everything but like you were like

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this it was just like a little chuckle that have been fine Lauren's always been more of a straight actress you know she

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likes the the more serious serious you know material whereas give me a a song

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and dance number and I'm I'm happy like you both got your individual strengths

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that that you so how many how many shows would you say you've done together then over the years

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oh the thing is like in Ste girl we would have always done our end of term

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show but we also there was like a way trip of us that would have gone to every

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Nursing Home in Northern Ireland every opening of an envelope every time like

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May C like EAS any sort of like dday we

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we also had these um little like Snippets that we would have done so one was um the the 40s so it was all army

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songs um so that was always great to do like in the nursing homes because brought back memories we had Oklahoma we

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had my fair lady um we had KS king and queen which was great and then we were

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all always commissioned so for like big balls um you know like big companies um

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if he wanted some um entertainment at the beginning or in between the meals so we had like a French number like can can

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we hadish we had for Hollywood the Caribbean there was loads of stuff that

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people say could you do this and our dance teacher most fabulous woman that anybody could ever have met was like yep

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and we rehearsed it and we did it and we maybe only learned it like three weeks beforeand but we were full costumes

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ready go we were just rolled out like all the which signs like oh maybe that's

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a bit iffy like you know these young children like being like honestly there would have been weeks where you maybe

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had like two or three different you know events or shows to go to or nursing

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homes throughout the week but we literally adored it do you know what I

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mean like we were like yeah more more more and we danced in odd places like you know we would maybe would have done

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Leisure centers on like the Monday night and then on Saturday we were opening up a car showroom and then we maybe had you

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know a couple of nursing homes and then one it was a wedding you know it was just it was just so bizarre and at the

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time I don't think we understood how not strange but how unique that experience

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was because it doesn't happen anymore you know like no that doesn't happen

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just in general like you know even you know like places aren't as open to

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opening the door and bringing grips in do you know what I mean it it it just doesn't happen also there's not the

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commitment there from you know younger the younger Generations now like they're

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involved in so many different things that it just it just wouldn't work I think the best the you think that's

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shame do you think that's a do you think that's a I think because that we learned in the

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camaraderie that we had and the the closeness of our friendship Group which is linked like

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most of my friends are stage go friends you that we've grown up with I think CU we were in each other's lives so much

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because we were doing all of those different things it kids just don't have that anymore that to me they're a bit

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flighty do you know what I mean like they've got they're one or two friends and then it's clicky and whereas we just

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lived in each other's back pockets and also I a lot of kids trying oh I'll go

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to this for tap and I'll go do this for jazz and I'll do this for balet our stage goal was was everything um apart

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from balet but it was everything but it was more you were learning like professionalism so even no like um so I

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would shop around a bit for different companies and even just seeing like kids not knowing to hang on the blacks or

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step back if the audience can see you at the side of the stage then like you're too far you know step back just all

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those little skills that we were taught being involved in professional Productions as well as our own stage go

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but if you're at loads of different um groups like even Comm theater groups you're not maybe getting the same

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teaching so it's maybe a little bit harder it's a lot of mixed messages is I think tell me about what they what

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they did for you with the you touched on the connections there with people with the Friendship groups that you still got now the the people that you met when you

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were younger what what did that mean to you as you as you grew up it was my life yeah I think that's it

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and you you bared everything and like literally you know it was you you were getting changed in like the tiniest

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little room and you were all just doing it or if you'd had a bad day at school it was okay you were going to go and see

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those people later on because you had a nurse and home performance and that would have picked you up or you just got

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to know each other really well like I can still look at Timothy and um a couple of our other friends and I know

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when something's draw and you know and it's more like a family feeling um rather than just friendship I know by

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you know how they're they're standing how they're looking and I just feel them I just feel every single part of them um

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and I think it's just from spending so much time together I think it's that that support network that was that was

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built within our stage cool group because um LJ mentioned there school

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like school was not great for me to be quite honest with you I was a young boy who liked to sing and dance like school

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Monday to Friday was hell on Earth but I knew on a Saturday I was going to my people do you know what I mean I was

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going to my friends who enjoyed doing the same things I could talk to them

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about things that had happened that week that I couldn't talk to anybody else about um it was just a real support

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network do you know what I mean and so% yeah same for me I didn't I didn't get on too well at school either and I felt

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like when I was at school no one I felt a little bit alien I felt like

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completely different to everyone else like I had one main friend and then that

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we we got on because we had a love for film and so there was a connection there but no one else really kind of yeah

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understood me or I understood them and so when I found theater I found all

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these other people that all of a sudden we we connected and we had things to

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talk about that that were in common and I could yeah I could express myself in a

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different way than I than I couldn't at school and it and it felt FR freeing

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yeah which is so important for young people to have isn't it yeah well certainly in the early early years of

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secondary school I didn't express myself at all like I literally went to school

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did my classes and came home again like I wasn't myself I think I couldn't keep

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the facade up for long enough so like the the later years you know just before

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maybe lower and upper six um I was a bit more myself which is then when it was

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the hardest time for me because I was I was like I can't like be a we Shadow

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anymore but also I can't be myself because that's not sitting well with you

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know everybody else it so I was like just wednes Saturday how many how many

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we shows do I have this week that I can just go and like forget about what's going on and just Express I think I

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think you know musical theater in it itself is great for that expression as well and for being somebody else other

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than yourself you know putting on a role and just being able to you know let it all out there and I

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think it it teaches you skills such as teamwork you know and you know that's one of our transversal skills which you

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teach you know all over the place no matter what subject you're doing but it's teamwork and and reading people and

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getting on with people that maybe have one common interest like musical theater

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but they maybe also are really into like Star Wars or also really into like playing musical instrument or reading or

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whatever but you you you have to get on and if you don't get on the performance is going to fail so you are put into

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these like high pressured situations and you just do it and you respect one another you um listen to what they have

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to say you work out your problems because there's always going to be problems um but you do it together and

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then you create this magical thing at the end and then you have that so you move on to the next one problems the

30:03

girls they F like cat and dog terrible I was like the referee between them going right okay but like yet the

30:11

the closest Bunch like not like even then you're still really close but like

30:16

oh my goodness the oh yeah there's always drama in the theater isn't there

30:24

there's yeah but like you say I think it's a high pressure environment that brings us

30:30

all get so we have all these like issues and problems and different personalities and but we're all working

30:36

to like a common goal that that with theater it must happen at a a certain

30:43

time yeah in a certain way yeah and everything must come together yeah and

30:50

and you find a way don't you you you must um yeah there's something in that

30:56

isn't there I think in that in that high pressure moment of yeah we we've got to

31:03

do this we've got to put those issues to one side for the show is going to start at 7:30 yeah yeah that's it and you just

31:11

have to get on with it and I think that that is something that you've got to learn and it certainly develop because

31:17

it is a skill but um we we definitely learned so much and even just you know

31:23

being able to talk to strangers like not in a dangerous way but you know know like how many times within a school

31:29

environment or even in a work environment do you have to maybe stand up and do a presentation and you're being able to just say a few lines will

31:37

help you do that you know so you're talk English talking and listening maybe it wasn't as scary for you because you just

31:44

stand up performing you know well somebody else that's a massive massive thing or doing a presentation in your

31:50

workplace you can do it because you've got that experience from the theater yeah and I guess that's that's really

31:56

important to to note as well because some people might think I'm not going to send my kids to a musical theater group

32:03

because they're not that's not what they're going to do when they're older they're not going to go into musical theater but you just touched on some

32:09

really important transferable skills yeah yeah and so what skills have you

32:15

guys because you said like you said yourself LJ that you've got other businesses and what about yourself Tim

32:20

what what else do you do so I I'm a teacher by trade I'm a primary school teacher so um just like Lauren said the

32:27

whole idea of going into your first placement and you know being in a classroom with 30 little faces looking

32:33

up at you like for a lot of people who were on my course like they were

32:38

petrified of that moment and I was like yeah no problem it's fine because at that point I had already started you

32:45

know uh LJ eventually you know transitioned and left stage girl I never

32:52

did um because I got to the age of like 18 and then Sharon who was running the

32:58

stage go at that time was like would you not just stay on and like help out in classes and so then that I did that and

33:04

then I moved to being one of their dance teachers choreographers and I I'm still there to this day Lauren has returned

33:11

because her two kids now go to the stage girl so Lauren's back in the fold like

33:16

she's never been away but so I'm I have never left stage school um so yeah I

33:24

teach which is much easier because I had stage girl cuz I can communicate you

33:30

have to put on a show every day you know you've got to make it engaging and motivate the kids and it's it's it's a

33:37

lot of you know it's a play you know from 9:00 to 3 um and then I've gone on

33:43

to choreographing uh choreography for different amateur companies and you know

33:48

which you know stand in front of a a room full of adults some who maybe

33:54

aren't as open to the ideas that you're expressing in or they've had a bad day in work and they're like why am I here

34:01

I'd rather be at home sitting on this um sofa you know it's helped me to be able

34:06

to manage that room and you know to engage them and fire them up so I owe a

34:15

huge amount of my skills and my knowledge and my learning to Stage go and I don't think any of that would have

34:20

been as easy for me if I hadn't had that from you know the age of six up it

34:26

sounds like you've really embraced it into to your life like 100% haven't you it is probably the biggest part of my

34:33

life that creative side you know I don't know what I would do if I didn't have

34:39

that but I've had it all you know because thankfully my parents did put me

34:44

into Stage SCH at such a young age it's been there my whole life you know even before that I remember going to you know

34:51

rehearsals and sitting beside dad at the keyboard and like just going oh wow what

34:57

are these people in front of me doing like they're singing and dancing and they're wearing costumes and they're

35:02

playing a part and it's Larger than Life it's bright it's colorful it you know I

35:09

was I was pretty much hooked from probably birth to be quite honest with you soon as you came out you were

35:16

singing and dancing yeah that's ta we tap she's on tapping away well see that

35:21

was with my daughter my daughter the moment she was born I knew she was going to be a performer it just just wriggling

35:27

away way to music and it's just I think it's just it just is some people performing isn't it it just it's just

35:34

within us we have we have to get it out yeah and it's just a form of expression

35:39

and it's that learn you're constantly learning but another thing that I I want to touch on that I really feel I Learned

35:46

was respect for people giving you orders like or telling you what to do like

35:53

obviously you know we're Millennials um so the generations after us from probably aren't as good as us you know

35:59

that's just Millennial isn't it any but we had and still do have so much

36:06

respect for those that are in a position of authority um but understanding that they're telling you something to either

36:12

keep you safe or to teach you um so that you can be better you know the reason

36:18

for saying you did that wrong is because you did it wrong you know I need to respect that and I need to try and do

36:24

better so I feel that's where I I was able to bring that into my personal life and give everything a go and I'm maybe

36:32

not the best person at taking criticism but I will eventually take it on board and

36:38

change I'm saying nothing I will I will but if somebody

36:44

has said especially in in in theater somebody says be quiet or you know um

36:49

here I this is what you need to do here I'll go okay I need to do that you know and listening to people not everybody

36:57

has been skills but I feel like we we were taught some amaz I'm taught by some amazing people and got to experience

37:04

being in professional Productions that not everybody gets the opportunity to do and we realize how privileged and and

37:10

lucky we were but yeah like you said like if somebody is him and Han about sending a child to their local community

37:17

theater just do it because they will learn so many skills which will help them later on in life and just that

37:23

confidence to be able to give anything a go might not always succeed which sometimes is better because you learn

37:28

from your mistake mistakes but give it a go and something magical Could Happen even the backing of Arts within schools

37:35

you know I think I think that's really important as a teacher I think the role

37:41

of Art and drama within the classroom is really really important I think it's the

37:47

the number one thing that I've discovered in my career that has helped

37:52

you know those quieter kids that maybe don't have very much self-esteem or confidence like drip feeding that idea

38:00

of role play or freeze frames or hot sting where they're not being themselves

38:05

they're be they're having to be somebody else and when when they push themselves

38:11

out of the comfort zone to give that a go like I you notice then how their

38:16

confidence and their self-esteem begins to grow so that child who wouldn't have said a word at the beginning of the year

38:24

by the end of the year is actually able to stand and front of the class and you know do a presentation or talk about a

38:31

hobby or an interest that they have and I don't think that happens without a you

38:36

know obviously a a safe environment but like that role of the the Arts has

38:44

played and drama has played I think really helps children and I think I think now there's a lot of

38:51

children that can't socialize and can't talk and I don't think the years of Co

38:57

were children weren't in school and they weren't interacting with others has helped them you know it so we're

39:04

fighting that as well do you know what I mean than ever isn't it

39:09

yeah we've touched on that Co that Co that period of time where all these children were were

39:16

separated were at home many alone at home you know parents and stuff but but

39:23

separated from their groups and and that could have done some serious damage and So within the Arts is

39:31

where we can look to repair it I'd like to think yeah absolutely any damage that

39:36

was done in that time for them for sure and we talk a lot about you know mental

39:42

health is is very is a subject that we talk about a lot these days which is important for all of us and where do you

39:49

feel like that helps the younger people the the Arts within mental health it it

39:55

just allies them to express themselves and it's a distraction technique isn't

40:01

it in a way you know if you're doing a bit of drama or singing or dancing it's like an r in in their day where they're

40:08

not you know mulling over whatever it is that is is their issue or they're

40:14

worried about you know they can forget about it they can just have fun and

40:19

express themselves and and focus their energy and their attention on something else and I think a purpose doesn't it

40:28

yeah absolutely and it's a it's an environment where they're going to naturally meet and interact yeah with

40:35

other people which also helps you know talking to somebody else yeah I think so so not only are they come and maybe do a

40:43

PO theater or whatever in the Arts and they're doing that to take their mind

40:49

off anything that is worrying them they're then finding people who are may be similar to them and they eventually

40:54

hopefully should be able to open up and that that's what we found we' really relied on each other some in some very

41:01

tough times in our lives um but like what i' said at the beginning we know

41:06

whenever we're feeling a little like that and we can we can have those conversations and allow that person to

41:12

to open up so yeah Arts is is special in loads of different ways and I think it's only as you get older you realize all

41:19

those skills are still with you yeah you don't you don't know them at the time do you I there's no point when I was do

41:25

started all this when I was 15 16 did I go oh I'm learning so much here and I'm getting so many skills and I'm working

41:32

out life I didn't ever consider that until I look back um so I guess that's up to some of

41:38

us older ones to kind of highlight it for them so we can kind of maybe guide

41:43

them in that that direction um and I'm thinking about my I'm thinking about my son now so my

41:49

son's now 18 but he joined a local drama group called Class Act theater school

41:55

and when he started he was is very very quiet and in a in in his shell um but by

42:02

the time he was 10 he could he got up at my wedding stood on a chair and did a

42:08

speech amazing yeah he wouldn't have done that if he hadn't have done the

42:14

theater school we had a lot of help from his gr as well um she helped him a lot so she's got a credit there to help with

42:20

the confidence um but but also the the doing the theater stuff and he doesn't want to do theater mov mov forward now

42:27

he's 18 he's he's he's might he's he's very mathematical um but it's given him

42:34

skills that he can use in life and he can he can talk to people and he's very

42:40

friendly and I and again and I'd say that that that that he's very open with

42:45

people and I I credit that to being part of the part of the drama school when he was younger yeah yeah

42:53

it's so it's so important yeah like I see it year upon year in stage girl like

43:00

you know new children who join you and by the end of the year they're a

43:05

different child like completely different because it's it's quick too it doesn't seem for most children it seems

43:12

to develop a at quite a rate it's not like they have to work on this for like

43:18

five years and then you know you can see a marked difference I think it's just that that safe environment to just let

43:26

go and you know be you and and give you things a go and know that nobody's going

43:33

to be judging you or looking at you or you know giving you a hard time if it you know you land on your face you know

43:39

it's fine you get yourself up yourself off and you go again and nobody really

43:45

worries about it do you know what I mean I think it's it's yeah there's a special place in theater for support networks

43:50

isn't there and connection definitely build something special yeah like I say the for me the

43:57

the the best friendships that I've that I've had are through theater they're the ones that have

44:03

stayed around for life and and we'll stay around for the for the rest of it is yeah through the connections that we

44:08

make in in the theater World from us she keeps dragging me

44:14

back that's good that's good that's lovely and because because as adults as well we're expected now may or maybe we

44:22

put the pressure on ourselves to go and do you know we've got responsibilities and we got bills and things and do Norm

44:29

normal jobs um so it's really great when when you can be pulled back into it yeah

44:35

yeah what about yourself LJ what do you do as your as your other your other job your other business so I I teach um post

44:43

16 so but usually in an environment where they maybe have struggled in school so they maybe have been pulled

44:50

out of school for um a certain length of time just to try and get them smaller um courses um to try and

44:59

build up their confidence um or they are moving on like as a steeping Stone um

45:04

and they maybe have like special educational needs um so still like that teaching but it's a little bit more

45:12

laidback um and we're maybe teaching some of those softer skills rather than

45:17

um I'm certainly not a ma or English teacher at all but like customer service

45:23

and creative and all of that stuff like it and whatever so how do you feel like

45:29

your your skill set from musical theater has helped what you're doing now with these young people so adaptability 100%

45:36

so and I'm constantly reading um my Learners so whenever they walk into the

45:42

room I can tell if they have a good day if they're having a good day or a bad day just by their body language um and I

45:49

can see am I going to be able to follow that lesson plan today or am I going to have to do something a little bit more

45:55

get them on their feet or are they totally disengaged that role play that I have you know is not going to work um so

46:02

I'm going to have to change that up so I think just that being flexible and adaptable and as Timothy said just stand

46:09

in front of the class and just you know waffle for a little bit as a Time filler

46:16

um because maybe that activity that you had planned that should have lasted half an hour has only lasted 10 minutes

46:22

because they're refusing to do any work um so yeah just those adaptable skills and I've really brought that in and and

46:30

as Timothy said I can talk forever it doesn't always make sense but I I can at least

46:36

talk which brings me back to to your podcast then so what's happening with

46:42

your podcast the moment where are you guys you like you say 54 55 episodes

46:48

what is what is happening right now I think we would like to um push the

46:55

buildo we bit more more push ourselves out of that comfort zone we were talking about earlier you know um and maybe get

47:02

a few more guests that are in the industry that we know we don't know at all you know you know we know them

47:08

because they because we've heard of them or we've seen them do things in the industry but it would be nice to get you

47:14

know a few more guests on like that um there's the potential of maybe doing a

47:21

live recording from one of the um the theaters in the west end this year so

47:27

hopefully that might happen soon um just still in the works out there in the universe and you never know what might

47:32

come you know yeah so that's certainly what we're thinking if you anything to

47:38

add there cuz like Lauren is the brains behind it like I have to I have to tell

47:43

you I arrive and just talk nonsense do you know what I mean like she's the one that's on the social she's on the Tik

47:49

Tok like I just do what Lauren tells me because that's what I've done since the age of six

47:55

so know it works so yeah and I think what we have really discovered from the

48:03

podcast is how wonderful lyricists are and how amazing composers are and it's

48:09

not that we didn't have respect for those people we obviously 100% did but the whole podcast is maybe breaking down

48:16

the lyrics and seeing what does that word mean or what are they referencing

48:21

in that so we're not always looking at like a performance as such we're maybe looking at just the music so I would

48:28

love to maybe get some more creative people on and like U you know liting designers how does that work and um you

48:35

know we've had a couple of um interviews with people and talked about the addition process and you know we've gone

48:41

through things like that too but I would love to really start yeah beefing it out

48:46

a little bit and and getting loads of people from the industry just to kind of share their stories and see hi because I

48:53

think I think if unless you're involved in theater you don't realize how many people are there you've got your stage

48:59

manager got your lightting designer you've got your director your md you've got chaperon there to look after

49:04

children you've got um costumes you've got assistant costume you know there's just so many people and a lot of the

49:12

times because of the the stuff that we grew up in it's a community theater and people are giving their time freely and

49:18

willingly and you go along you maybe see somebody that you know on a show and you walk out you go that was great well done

49:24

but you don't realize that there was 50 people behind that stage making that one hour performance magical yeah no there

49:32

is yeah it's such a community isn't there that uh that it brings together

49:37

theater yeah and it's it's it's wonderful that you're sharing that that you're that you're showing people that

49:43

that there isn't just the the people on the stage Under The Lights there is all the people behind it as well and even

49:51

there's like I think there's like three or four layers to theater isn't there you got the first layer on the stage the

49:57

people the audience is seeing then there's the people behind the wings then there's the people that are controlling

50:03

the technology the lights and the sound then there's the people that that wrote the show compos the music it it just it

50:11

goes on and on and on doesn't it and it's and and those areas those places

50:17

they really do need to have a light shined on them as well those outter circles yeah absolutely and it it shows

50:24

people that there is opportunity there for them to get involved because not everyone wants to be on the stage do

50:30

they no that's it that's it and you don't always have to be on the stage and in fact your skills you know for being

50:36

able to control you know the liting I like I wouldn't have a clue how to do any of that stuff and I just think that

50:41

that's mesmerizing um you know you could teach somebody who's really into like engineering they may be able to like

50:47

help with that and you know I don't know there's just so many skills there is yeah

50:54

so who who have you got lined up then is there anyone lined up at the moment like technical wise to to come on

51:01

soon a with maybe a a choreographer and uh a director we'll maybe start with the

51:08

that creative layer first and then maybe there's just few stage managers that

51:15

where're we're going to approach and yeah so we're just at the moment we've got a list of people that we would like

51:22

to kind of wish list and hopefully they say yes of course we'll come on your podcast yeah only us you you can

51:32

yeah we are still enjoying like that kind of delving into the different shows

51:38

like at this point we were like will we still have enough musicals like are we going to run out of musicals and the

51:44

answer to that is no I don't think if we were to do this podcast for the next 10 years there will still be musicals that

51:50

we haven't looked at do you know what I mean um like we're like 50 episodes in

51:56

and haven't even touched on some of the really big musicals that everybody like noways knows so because it's not that

52:04

we've gone for obscure ones it's just there are so many musicals and sometimes we forgot about that one or what about

52:10

this and you just which is lovely that we have got material there that we can talk about for a long time but we can

52:16

also add in different elements from choreographers and directors and you know get just different um experiences

52:22

and conversations going what does the process look like for you guys for setting up does all the

52:29

discovery happen on the podcast or is there is there like a buildup to it I

52:35

know that Tim you just turn up and and chat me I have my book book right do

52:43

I'll do we do our own like kind of research so we'll decide upon what musical we want to do next and we go

52:50

away separately and we delve into here and we we you know look at the lyrics

52:55

again if it's a show that we have previous experience of either we've been in it or you know we've seen it uh we

53:03

will also like you know talk about that talk about that but we don't talk to

53:08

each other about what we've discovered so then you know the first time we we

53:15

share our musical lyrical lingos is on the podcast and it's quite interesting you know sometimes we have the same

53:22

musical lyrical lingo we have the same learning or sometimes I will have learned something and she'll look at me

53:27

going are you daed how did you not know that um there's also we've discovered a

53:33

lot of misheard lyrics that you know for years we've been singing these songs all wrong oh you yourself have been singing

53:41

them wrong oh yeah oh yeah yeah I mean we were also learning these musicals before giggle like so or somebody was

53:48

just sitting beside a tap and like I think this is what this you know the lyrics are so then we learned like

53:54

especially in some of our songs for dance trips like we were singing Whatever sounded like it it needed to be

54:01

because you were learning from maybe like the 14y old well you were 10 and then you were that 14year old passing it

54:07

on so dear knows what we were saying um so that's all that's kind of become a

54:14

thing about misheard lyrics and um mispronunciations because I'm terrible

54:19

at that terrible and actually I think by part of Osmosis as as the recording

54:25

process continues I'm getting worse and I blame her because I was okay at the

54:30

beginning with the whole pronunciations you're learning you're learning from each other good end yeah like I've had

54:35

some clangers and I blame her because I was okay when I started but I like the fact that we are separate whenever we're

54:42

researching a musical um because I think that that brings a vulnerability to it because when you're by yourself you can

54:49

go oh I don't know what that is and write it down and then research it well if you were doing that work together and

54:55

I go here I don't know what that is and then somebody goes what you don't know what that is you would kind of be afraid to then admit what you didn't know if

55:02

you were doing it together so it's nice that we've done the research before and we come together and then we can go how

55:08

did you not know that but it's it seems like it's less harsh I suppose I think

55:14

it's so lovely of you at the beginning to kind of say about how the friendship you know our friendship comes out in our

55:21

podcast and I'm not so sure that would come out as much if we had planned it together it would be a lot more

55:26

structured because let's be honest our podcast has a very very lose structure I mean we I think that's what makes it

55:33

special because I don't think anyone wants to listen into factual information

55:39

and just be told something yeah I think I think we like to to discover things

55:45

together like what you're doing and then the listener can also discover along the way with you yeah that's what I think is

55:52

happening here on these but that's why I think podcasts are are taking off and boo and become this new thing is because

55:59

I think we all enjoy Discovery don't we yeah absolutely and so you two are doing

56:04

this discovery separately you come together you you connect and find something new and then the listener then

56:10

comes in as well and discover something on top of that potentially not anything

56:16

it makes listeners seem really smart because then they go why did they not know that saying if we didn't know it there

56:23

wouldn't be a podcast the whole podcast is about learning and Discovery so yeah yeah and and and again that's

56:31

what I'm doing here as well I'm discovering things every day and learning learning new things I'm learning so much from from you guys and

56:38

everyone I'm meeting has got something to to offer in that sense of Discovery

56:43

and learning it's it's amazing isn't it really yeah absolutely it's lovely and it makes that Journey so much nicer as

56:51

well because you're not only learning yourself you're helping others learn and

56:56

you you have a real sense of achievement I think you know I I love what what you are doing and listening to everybody's

57:03

stories and um there was one week actually what we were talking about in our podcast um was in the everything

57:11

talking about Jimmy or everyone's talking about Jimmy podcast when we were talking about work of art yeah and one of your guests was talking about that

57:17

specific um art piece the urinal and I was like how weird that you know we are

57:23

not like talking about the same thing but yet we and we're in if you were to do like van diagrams there's that little

57:30

crossover it's amazing she loves the diagram no I've things like that so

57:36

fascinating as well about like the I had a I had a situation yesterday where things were me and people were

57:44

connecting and I was like how is this how is this happening I my a friend of

57:49

mine the second guest on the podcast um she talks a lot about Connections and ripple effects of the

57:56

universe and things like that um and then she told me about someone else's

58:02

podcast to listen to and I reached out to him two days ago and on the same day

58:09

he reached out to her not knowing the connection like and he's in Los Angeles

58:15

as well and it was just there was just like this strange like connection thing going on that it was like how is this

58:22

happening how we and like you said about like talking about same subjects at the same time and and they come together it

58:29

might just all be coincidence or it might genuinely mean something I know don't know um but I'm very curious to

58:36

find out more it's it's creative and Arty people kind of just get drawn to

58:41

other creative and Arty people yeah yeah do you think that's what it is then it's the

58:47

I you find somebody like who's in that realm you know yeah

58:57

actually saying about so I'm going to a podcast event a podcast networking event

59:03

okay this week and I was thinking should I go should I go I booked the tickets last night paid for it so I have to go

59:09

now yeah I was I'm in an RM a little bit because again I so every now and then I

59:14

go back to that previous mind state that I used to have of oh I'm not very confident and I'm not very good at

59:20

talking to people yeah and I that actually I have got the skill set to do that now so I don't need to be have not

59:28

have the confidence of that um so yeah I'm going there to to Network and and

59:34

obviously there's going to be other types of it's all about podcasting the podcasting show it's called um so if you

59:41

guys got any tips for me for connecting with people at this podcasting event

59:47

just be yourself you're really easy to talk to like you you have nothing to

59:52

worry about that the idea of that event would fill me with absolute Fair because I don't think I don't feel I'm at that

59:59

stage yet where I could go and talk face to face with other podcasters but you you're you're more than ready for Martin

1:00:06

enjoy yourself I kind I kind of have that fear like it's like a it's like a thing in the brain that keeps telling me

1:00:12

no I'm I'm not good at doing this and I'm like shut up brain it's okay it's okay you're what

1:00:19

154 episodes so yeah

1:00:26

I think you have to take that self-belief I I have another business where I do have to do a lot of um

1:00:32

networking because I sell a product and if I don't talk about my product nobody's going to know about it and I

1:00:38

had to learn that where I go I I'm not boasting I'm not but if I don't start saying it and and explaining the

1:00:45

benefits of it then I nobody is going to know about it so you need to take that

1:00:51

on board you need to use the network opportunity as an opportunity just to share your story and share what it is

1:00:56

that you do and trust in yourself that you know more than what you realize I think a lot of times we go to you know

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like CBD and training events and then you sit back and you go I knew all that but at the beginning you would have been

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like I need to go and learn more you know because I don't know enough but then you come away you go actually I did

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I just needed the confidence to believe that I knew that so yeah more like I said I think you have a real skill there

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and listening and and dragging um you know nonsense out of people but

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no I I think you nonsense we haven't talked nonsense on

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in fact this is probably the most um sensible we've been I know our best you

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made us raise our game Martin thanks off nice I'm really enjoying it I really

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do I appreciate that guys um that's very nice to hear and maybe a much needed

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little pep talk before I go you know I don't think there's any harm in that is there in giving each other a little pep

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talk and a little oh you can do it you can you 100% can and I you know what I

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look forward to hearing what you say about it on the socials I'll put it on the socials and I'll be sure to tell people there about

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about you guys as well thank you yeah app it we might be there next year you

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never know we'll see how it goes yeah exactly it looks like a good event like they've got James C's gonna be there

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talking so they got some they got some big names there doing doing talks and yeah even if I just come Away Learning I

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might learn something yeah that's I want I'd like this to grow I'm very I am actually very proud of what what I've

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been building here so I'd like it to to become bigger and better and um and in to do that I

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know I need to learn some stuff um and I need to make some connections and so so

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that's my that's my only hope from it really um and to get rid of that negative selft talk as well that yeah

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just make it smaller just make that's all you need to do just make that smaller you know negative thoughts just

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make them smaller yeah I guess everybody's G be there that's I mean I think it's

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sometimes we feel like they have to go away well they're not they're not ever going to fully go away but if they just don't take up the majority part of our

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thinking um then I think they can get through things but good luck for it all and thank you so much for having us and

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if and D just break into song and dance Martin like that's all well I love watching musical theater but I'm

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terrible at it I've been in one musical theater show Westside Story oh that's a biggie you

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know like and I and I I was only in the chorus but I don't know how I got

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in I don't know I think I had the the right look but um I even remember one of the dancers that auditioned I I bumped

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into her a few days after the audition and she said how'd it go for you because I didn't get in and I was like oh I got

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in and she was like what what

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how how the hell did you do that um yeah I'd love to be good at musical theater

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but um I I don't think it'll be fair on the audience we all have our skills we all

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all have our our Channel yes so are you still doing musical theater do you are

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you still doing shows I I don't on stage anymore I would I would be behind the

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scenes not choreographing I do a lot of choreography um because I actually got

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to the point as an adult where I didn't have as much confidence as I did as a child on stage and I went oh I'm done

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with performing in front of people and I was much more interested then in the creative side of things so I kind of

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made that jump over however in the last year or two I'm kind of going I might

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like to give tread on the boards a we go you know one final one final you know go

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it I think I'm of an age now where I can play a few of those parts that I've I've

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always had a mind of oh wouldn't it be great if I could play this or so we'll see what about you I do I don't do

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anything well I am more sort of like behind the scenes and um because the

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kids are are involved I enjoy that so I feel like I'm you know doing the podcast and helping uh with costumes and

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anywhere anybody sort of needs me I love to help like I re I'm a really good helper I'm I can do this I can do that

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um or I can learn how to it so that I can do it for you um but yeah so that's been nice but I think unless there was a

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part that really called me I don't think I I could go out on stage again which I

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suppose is a shame but you never know watch this face that's very S I think that's

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probably probably about being in a stage of our life I'm very similar but but then I like I'd really

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want to be on the stage but I haven't actually been on the stage since 2016 okay because I've been seeking I've

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been seeking professional work and keeping myself available for professional work that hasn't really

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paid off and then we had covid in between and all of a sudden all the years have gone by and I'm I am itching

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to get to get back on the stage I'd like to find a way there but at the same time I I say that same thing as you LJ that I

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want a part to call to me I'm I'm listening out for that part that that is that that resonates that um

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yeah rather than because because it is we do have to put a lot of time into it don't we that's

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it real life sometimes gets in the way and which is a shame but you know that's

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why if it's the right part you feel like you would make time for it so guys as we as we look to wrap this

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this up if um here's a hypothetical for you we get in a time machine together

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and um we're going to look at a podcasts five years from now what would the what would it look

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like oh God you can go first oh my God that's it's just the dream it's just the

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dream hopes I would I would love that if we

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are still fortunate to be doing it and enjoying it in five years time that it's

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a podcast where up andc comers like people new

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into the industry are wanting to get involved in um I think because we being

1:07:28

those young kids with dreams I would love to it to be a platform where somebody could come on and share um what

1:07:36

their skills were and what what type of jobs they were interested in and getting help for how to addition and um land

1:07:44

those dream roles and yeah I think I think so mine's a bit more selfish I'd

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love to do I'd love to be doing like live podcasts I have my yeah well no I mean like on like on

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stage like get it like I'm thinking London Plum to be honest Martin like you know I would love musical L lyrical

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lingo lingo live at the London Plum now that's hard to say yes yes you know what

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I'll book my ticket now can I can I reserve you'll be you'll be a guest you'll be coming on yeah no but like

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that kind of idea it's lovely to see when podcasts like you know get to a

1:08:25

certain size that they then go actually we could like car a venue and like do a

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live one and have a live audience and yeah that would be really Co and it kind

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of like you know we love doing our podcasts but we also loved being on stage Once Upon a Time you know so it be

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lovely to kind of combine the two of those together let's do it five years

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time let do it it do it well so for me it's it's interesting that you say that because that's my my oneye anniversary

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show is going to be amazing you got a date yet or so so like

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I said I'm lucky to have a community theater that's nearby it's not going to be open to the to the public okay um I'm

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just gonna be inviting guests that have been on the show so if you want to come over to the UK for it um it's uh yeah

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it'll be on the 30th of July um starting to put it together now but yeah like like a live show um yeah start it start

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it off at the at the one year anniversary um but yeah I think that's I I see that as a dream as well of of of

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doing these conversation lives I think people really enjoy them when they're working well and there is entertainment

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space within it as well and to bring the two elements together that we love could

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be really special couldn't it yeah absolutely yeah 100% well all the best with that that's

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so exting so and I look forward to continue to listening to your podcast so

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um yeah as as we finish this I just want to say I really do appreciate you guys joining me today

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um if anyone wants to to find out more about you guys and find your podcast how

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do how do we find you so we are on all the socials we are um on YouTube um at

1:10:15

musical ER lingo we are on Tik Tok at musical pod and Instagram at musical

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lcal lingo um and we are on all the ma major um podcast platforms um but if you

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just want to find us and just listen to us you could just type in musical Lal Ino into your search bar and our Buzz um

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Sprite feed will come up wonderful this has been great guys I've really enjoyed it thank you so much thank you very much

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if if anyone's been watching or listening uh we appreciate you as well for for joining this conversation um and

1:10:50

if you want to find out more about the BTS creative Academy do do you guys know what you should do well uh Tik Tok is

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where you have but you also have your channel on YouTube yeah it's like the same as you guys everywhere just just

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keep it simple just search BTS creative Academy that's all you need to do so thanks guys appreciate you thank you

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very much bye bye bye bye